This from last night's Letters From an American by Heather Cox Richardson, "...but as Monique Pressley put it, “The proof of Biden’s ability to run the country is the fact that he is running it. Successfully. Not a debate performance against a pathological lying sociopath.”
When it comes to my vote, there’s no way I would vote for a convicted, grifting, lying, racist criminal. Trump represents the worst element of this country. Biden’s age is an issue but it’s been made an issue due to his vice president’s race and gender in my opinion. Democrats didn’t want to put a serious challenger to the president based on his incumbency. Obviously this may be a serious misstep. The most disconcerting thing is the lazy uninformed majority of the electorate have been manipulated by corporate media that a conman that mismanaged this country, with traitorous actions, (insurrection) costs people their lives (Covid 19) with his lies and greed ( cronyism) is a viable candidate to lead this country into the future.
I am not surprised by the hypocrisy of the media. Are they suggesting trump bow out, no. He lied continually, Badh and Tapper were weak, there was no fact checking him in real time, so where are the headlines for him to drop out? I was so furious with every MSNBC commentator except Lawrence, eho continally talked aboyt the lies, Joy seemed almost gleefull. They can all eat rocks. He had a bad debate, don't care. Everyone needs to stop wringing their hands, period. We have trump or Biden. We will have a Christofascist nation if people don't vote blue. There is no perfect candidate for the Dems and if Biden withdraws, we will lose.
DT kept ignoring the questions and going off on his rants and had to be reminded several times of what the question was that he avoided. It was not a debate. It was a rally with microphones that could be turned off and on. Yes, Biden was not at his best, but he will get my vote because there is no way I could vote for the felon, conman, liar, traitor named trump.
Biden struggled and Trump deflected last night which shows that these 2 should have been in their homes resting at 9pm rather than debating for 90 minutes. The debate was definitely fund raising performance art - Joe and Kamala filled my inbox this morning looking for more of my money🤷🏽♀️
I am grateful, and a little surprised, tbh, that the GOP, and/or the tRump campaign hasn’t pivoted and used the specter of a Harris Presidency, to gin up fundraising fears, and throw all the bigoted bugaboos about her becoming President.
I guess? An ‘upside’ to a pathological narcissist running the GOP Presidential campaign strategy, he’s a buffoon?🤷🏼♂️🫤
This also from Heather Cox Richardson's Letters from an American last night. And it makes SO much sense! You could see it on Biden's face, him trying to process all the gibberish Trump was spewing out!
" This was not a debate. It was Trump using a technique that actually has a formal name, the Gish gallop, although I suspect he comes by it naturally. It’s a rhetorical technique in which someone throws out a fast string of lies, non-sequiturs, and specious arguments, so many that it is impossible to fact-check or rebut them in the amount of time it took to say them. Trying to figure out how to respond makes the opponent look confused, because they don’t know where to start grappling with the flood that has just hit them.
It is a form of gaslighting, and it is especially effective on someone with a stutter, as Biden has. It is similar to what Trump did to Biden during a debate in 2020. In that case, though, the lack of muting on the mics left Biden simply saying: “Will you shut up, man?” a comment that resonated with the audience. Giving Biden the enforced space to answer by killing the mic of the person not speaking tonight actually made the technique more effective.
There are ways to combat the Gish gallop—by calling it out for what it is, among other ways—but Biden retreated to trying to give the three pieces of evidence that established his own credentials on the point at hand. His command of those points was notable, but the difference between how he sounded at the debate and how he sounded on stage at a rally in Raleigh, North Carolina, just an hour afterward suggested that the technique worked on him.
That’s not ideal, but as Monique Pressley put it, “The proof of Biden’s ability to run the country is the fact that he is running it. Successfully. Not a debate performance against a pathological lying sociopath.”
A much bigger deal is what it says that the television media and pundits so completely bought into Trump’s performance. They appear to have accepted Trump’s framing of the event—that he is dominant—so fully that the fact Trump unleashed a flood of lies and non-sequiturs simply didn’t register. And, since the format established that the CNN journalists running the debate did not challenge anything either candidate said, and Dale’s fact-checking spot came long after the debate ended, the takeaway of the event was a focus on Biden’s age rather than on Trump’s inability to tell the truth or form a coherent thought.
At the end of the evening, pundits were calling not for Trump—a man liable for sexual assault and business fraud, convicted of 34 felonies, under three other indictments, who lied pathologically—to step down, but for Biden to step down…because he looked and sounded old. At 81, Biden is indeed old, but that does not distinguish him much from Trump, who is 78 and whose inability to answer a question should raise concerns about his mental acuity.” - Heather Cox Richardson
Whew!! So glad they have other choices of the political party system. However, if you understand the current and past domination of the BIG TWO, no matter of the workings to win a vote, the Dem's start at 49% and the Rep's start at 49%. It's the 2% they are working to win over to their side to repeat their presence in office. I'm jealous of those that can give an aggregate current and future physical evaluation without medical matriculation, and even with that so, the old wise has a high percentage of correctness when they say, "JUST BECAUSE A TREE IS LEANNING, IT MAY NOT BE THE FIRST TO FALL".
As I watched the debate with old sleepy Joe, sometime lying and lying Donald, sometime sleepy, still confuses the masses as to who and which they would work hard enough and die for. So, I don't linger let me share some thought from the experience received growing up in the earlier years in Segregation.
Most or all of the labor intense jobs (Maids, Landscapers, Roofers, Brick & Block layers, Carpenters, Field Croppers, etc.) were done by descendants of the slaves. And who did they or he say have replaced those laborers? If you happen to watch some of the aftermath which did some fact checking, they both lied, one just more than the other.
Finally, I hope to see the day when we champion the candidate that will mandate the right to vote forever and rid the Voting Rights Act, make policy for the start of Reparations, stop Gerrymandering, stop hiding and /or distorting History within the Educational systems, and on and on. I'm still at awe after realizing how consumers are marketed with Superiority believing one has died to cleanse all of one's malfunctions to have exceptions, to have another clean start, but then don't give passage to all however, choose to pick and choose who's to receive.
Lastly, we live in Capitalism, and when we can learn to not be Inferior, i.e. Divided and Conquered, re-create our own communities, employ ourselves, spend our first dollars among each other, we would have no need to choose a party or person to vote for, they will choose us.
Jay Kuo pointed out one of his lies that I don't think is getting much press coverage, "...he (Trump) claimed that illegal immigrants are coming over and taking “Black jobs,” which has spawned a whole new category of memes about what a “Black job” is in Trump’s racist and deranged head. For someone who claims he will win a lot of the Black vote, it was a revealing and damaging moment.
This from last night's Letters From an American by Heather Cox Richardson, "...but as Monique Pressley put it, “The proof of Biden’s ability to run the country is the fact that he is running it. Successfully. Not a debate performance against a pathological lying sociopath.”
When it comes to my vote, there’s no way I would vote for a convicted, grifting, lying, racist criminal. Trump represents the worst element of this country. Biden’s age is an issue but it’s been made an issue due to his vice president’s race and gender in my opinion. Democrats didn’t want to put a serious challenger to the president based on his incumbency. Obviously this may be a serious misstep. The most disconcerting thing is the lazy uninformed majority of the electorate have been manipulated by corporate media that a conman that mismanaged this country, with traitorous actions, (insurrection) costs people their lives (Covid 19) with his lies and greed ( cronyism) is a viable candidate to lead this country into the future.
What he said ☝🏽! All of what he said!!!
I am not surprised by the hypocrisy of the media. Are they suggesting trump bow out, no. He lied continually, Badh and Tapper were weak, there was no fact checking him in real time, so where are the headlines for him to drop out? I was so furious with every MSNBC commentator except Lawrence, eho continally talked aboyt the lies, Joy seemed almost gleefull. They can all eat rocks. He had a bad debate, don't care. Everyone needs to stop wringing their hands, period. We have trump or Biden. We will have a Christofascist nation if people don't vote blue. There is no perfect candidate for the Dems and if Biden withdraws, we will lose.
DT kept ignoring the questions and going off on his rants and had to be reminded several times of what the question was that he avoided. It was not a debate. It was a rally with microphones that could be turned off and on. Yes, Biden was not at his best, but he will get my vote because there is no way I could vote for the felon, conman, liar, traitor named trump.
Biden struggled and Trump deflected last night which shows that these 2 should have been in their homes resting at 9pm rather than debating for 90 minutes. The debate was definitely fund raising performance art - Joe and Kamala filled my inbox this morning looking for more of my money🤷🏽♀️
Forgive my spelling errors, I was fired up and typing fast!
Not a quibble in your truths. 👏🏻
I am grateful, and a little surprised, tbh, that the GOP, and/or the tRump campaign hasn’t pivoted and used the specter of a Harris Presidency, to gin up fundraising fears, and throw all the bigoted bugaboos about her becoming President.
I guess? An ‘upside’ to a pathological narcissist running the GOP Presidential campaign strategy, he’s a buffoon?🤷🏼♂️🫤
I am surprised that has not happened as well.
This also from Heather Cox Richardson's Letters from an American last night. And it makes SO much sense! You could see it on Biden's face, him trying to process all the gibberish Trump was spewing out!
" This was not a debate. It was Trump using a technique that actually has a formal name, the Gish gallop, although I suspect he comes by it naturally. It’s a rhetorical technique in which someone throws out a fast string of lies, non-sequiturs, and specious arguments, so many that it is impossible to fact-check or rebut them in the amount of time it took to say them. Trying to figure out how to respond makes the opponent look confused, because they don’t know where to start grappling with the flood that has just hit them.
It is a form of gaslighting, and it is especially effective on someone with a stutter, as Biden has. It is similar to what Trump did to Biden during a debate in 2020. In that case, though, the lack of muting on the mics left Biden simply saying: “Will you shut up, man?” a comment that resonated with the audience. Giving Biden the enforced space to answer by killing the mic of the person not speaking tonight actually made the technique more effective.
There are ways to combat the Gish gallop—by calling it out for what it is, among other ways—but Biden retreated to trying to give the three pieces of evidence that established his own credentials on the point at hand. His command of those points was notable, but the difference between how he sounded at the debate and how he sounded on stage at a rally in Raleigh, North Carolina, just an hour afterward suggested that the technique worked on him.
That’s not ideal, but as Monique Pressley put it, “The proof of Biden’s ability to run the country is the fact that he is running it. Successfully. Not a debate performance against a pathological lying sociopath.”
A much bigger deal is what it says that the television media and pundits so completely bought into Trump’s performance. They appear to have accepted Trump’s framing of the event—that he is dominant—so fully that the fact Trump unleashed a flood of lies and non-sequiturs simply didn’t register. And, since the format established that the CNN journalists running the debate did not challenge anything either candidate said, and Dale’s fact-checking spot came long after the debate ended, the takeaway of the event was a focus on Biden’s age rather than on Trump’s inability to tell the truth or form a coherent thought.
At the end of the evening, pundits were calling not for Trump—a man liable for sexual assault and business fraud, convicted of 34 felonies, under three other indictments, who lied pathologically—to step down, but for Biden to step down…because he looked and sounded old. At 81, Biden is indeed old, but that does not distinguish him much from Trump, who is 78 and whose inability to answer a question should raise concerns about his mental acuity.” - Heather Cox Richardson
Whew!! So glad they have other choices of the political party system. However, if you understand the current and past domination of the BIG TWO, no matter of the workings to win a vote, the Dem's start at 49% and the Rep's start at 49%. It's the 2% they are working to win over to their side to repeat their presence in office. I'm jealous of those that can give an aggregate current and future physical evaluation without medical matriculation, and even with that so, the old wise has a high percentage of correctness when they say, "JUST BECAUSE A TREE IS LEANNING, IT MAY NOT BE THE FIRST TO FALL".
As I watched the debate with old sleepy Joe, sometime lying and lying Donald, sometime sleepy, still confuses the masses as to who and which they would work hard enough and die for. So, I don't linger let me share some thought from the experience received growing up in the earlier years in Segregation.
Most or all of the labor intense jobs (Maids, Landscapers, Roofers, Brick & Block layers, Carpenters, Field Croppers, etc.) were done by descendants of the slaves. And who did they or he say have replaced those laborers? If you happen to watch some of the aftermath which did some fact checking, they both lied, one just more than the other.
Finally, I hope to see the day when we champion the candidate that will mandate the right to vote forever and rid the Voting Rights Act, make policy for the start of Reparations, stop Gerrymandering, stop hiding and /or distorting History within the Educational systems, and on and on. I'm still at awe after realizing how consumers are marketed with Superiority believing one has died to cleanse all of one's malfunctions to have exceptions, to have another clean start, but then don't give passage to all however, choose to pick and choose who's to receive.
Lastly, we live in Capitalism, and when we can learn to not be Inferior, i.e. Divided and Conquered, re-create our own communities, employ ourselves, spend our first dollars among each other, we would have no need to choose a party or person to vote for, they will choose us.
PEACE
Jay Kuo pointed out one of his lies that I don't think is getting much press coverage, "...he (Trump) claimed that illegal immigrants are coming over and taking “Black jobs,” which has spawned a whole new category of memes about what a “Black job” is in Trump’s racist and deranged head. For someone who claims he will win a lot of the Black vote, it was a revealing and damaging moment.
Thanks for taking that hit! I haven't watched a debate ever because it's all so superficial and all that you said.