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Code + Philosophy's avatar

Great read. I believe that the biggest issue that we have in this country is that this is the most uneducated we have ever been in the past 80 years. That is huge. On the democracy front Orange Julius has done his beat to erode trust. People don’t understand that information is truth. This is not true at all. Truth is something different entirely. And because these disgruntled Black Men have confused information with truth we have a problem. This, of course, is a microcosm of what is actually a very bleak forecast of our nation’s intellect. People really believe education to be the great Satan and that everyone can do without because of the examples across the country but the one thing an education gives you access to—is the concept of critical thinking. This brother is where the absence of being educated kills us. How are we going to apply critical thinking skills to perspectives that we don’t even understand? Keep doing your thing man, somebody will have to start listening at some point. Peace. Talk soon.

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Cedita's avatar

It’s that refusal to listen to logic and verifiable facts that is the most irksome.

Misogyny and anti Blackness will be this country’s undoing.

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Phyllis Darden-Caldwell's avatar

What confounds me among those men who voted for trump and have nothing to say condemning trump for his sexual indiscretions including sexual assault but they have a lot to say about VP Harris' supposed upward trajectory towards VP.

Secondly, they way they 'peat and repeat and copy and paste the lines that she jailed brothas .... I remind them that it was the judge or the jury that convicted and sentenced the far fewer brothas that they claim. Every DA and AG was tasked to seeking criminal indictments and prosecuting alleged crimes but only DA /AG Harris is held "accountable" for supposedly imprisoning Black men. I even see white men push that now ... "she jailed Black men". When I have time, I remind that person ... that HE would have imprisoned them given the opportunity.

The misogyny against Black women is real.

I personally did not think she would win. I voted for her and told everyone to vote for her. As a Black woman, I've experienced the "this Black woman can't be my boss" syndrome from white and black men. I knew there would a large population of white men and many Black men .... some who would use the Bible to justify why a woman can't be President in this country ... More than that ... a Black woman.

Harris was not Obama. Her words are not always measured or politically correct when speaking about race. Her words are what Obama says now as a former President.

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Leo Horishny's avatar

I suspect, it’s to do with the general experience that too many are screwed by “the system”, in too many ways to list; added to that is the fact that most /too many, screwed by “the system” though are not critical thinkers, therefore, the only “remedy” seen or perceived by these simplistic thinkers is: “the system’s screwing ME, I’m going to ‘stick it’ to The Man/Deep State, etc.” the only way I think[sic] I know how…voting for the man who The System hates.

Simple Minds can only see simple solutions, even if told, “this guy’s going to screw you.” They see him as the only ‘screw you’ available, consequences be damned.

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Catini's avatar

Nobody wants to sit with themselves and do the work and face the pain and confusion and delusion.

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EFREEJAXNOLE's avatar

Its not just black men. My very first roommate in college, who is black - the first black person I had ever seen with freckles, a high yellow chick from SW Florida, told me last October that she wasn't voting for the "little black girl who did not even have a black husband," and she "couldn't tell me what to do if I paid her to do it, because she did not understand the struggle as a black mother," and she said she "agreed with getting rid of the Department of Education," because all it taught her was "that these student loans were going to be around longer than her now ex-husband," AND that her boys "went to THE BEST private schools and now will be going to the best colleges, for free." Needless to say, I made sure, to her face, I reminded her of the fight the power days she had at FSU and how we protected her when folks did not believe that she was black. And that her grandmother and my mama stood up to racist while they were in high school and their young adult lives and to piss on their graves was deplorable. Fast forward to now...Her recent message was that "she knows [Orange Face] is an idiot but loves entrepreneurs so she started three business," and that she honestly did not "learn shit in high school or college.' ::::SIGH:::: My Response: FAFO with your Black ass.

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Kevin Harvey's avatar

There's a fealty for MAGA that these people believe is rooted in a change that will be beneficial to them. When in all actuality, the Jedi Mind trick of MAGA perpetuates a false sense of inclusion that all of his bases fall for, which John Fuegalsang called "a paradoxical alignment of the poor projecting their similarities to a clan they could never join." I believe the same applies to Black MAGA. Yet, we've seen the outcome of this thought in Reconstruction, Jim Crow, and Separate but Equal; black folks who aligned with white supremacy never progressed and were forced or voluntarily shown their place. As Dr. Greg Car reminds us, ""Learning requires absorbing content."

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Randy Staten Jr.'s avatar

Very interesting article. I had foreseen that there would be some level of repulsion of a black and female that white male voters would have, but I did not consider how much that this could impact black men. When we look at today’s music and how it objectifies women it seems obvious. In addition, the rise of women that are being in higher esteem than men in many genres, it is very plausible that there could be a significant amount of envy there. Many men would rather put women in their place than support them as they have done for our entire existence.

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RICHARD YOOD's avatar

In my opinion, they will only, maybe partially, change their minds when they are suddenly affected by all the chaos that's happening. When they cannot get healthcare, or there's no school lunches, for their kids, or no food for the family SNAP, to name a few. Until the euphoria of "winning" the election, smacks into reality, then who are they going to blame?

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